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Hey, next time, how about a black kid holding up a liquor store, or maybe an Asian with buckteeth? You could have a whole hysterical series!
Steve Foerster, at 7:10 am EDT on August 3, 2007
I thought and pondered several minutes and could not find the humor in this teachable moment, it’s appaling. — One think is for sure, the instructor is definitely a red-neck!
Brenda, at 8:34 am EDT on August 3, 2007
What was the point of this?!
Baffled, at 8:35 am EDT on August 3, 2007
This guy’s cartoons are never funny, and this one is just plain dumb and offensive. Inside Higher Ed should stop wasting its e-space and our time on this junk. From now on I’m not going to bother clicking the link to Teachable Moments.
Fed Up, at 9:40 am EDT on August 3, 2007
Mr. Hall and IHE have risen to a new low.
hj, at 9:40 am EDT on August 3, 2007
If this is a Teachable Moment, what is it supposed to teach?
Jack Olson, at 9:40 am EDT on August 3, 2007
A quick check of this classist’s website shows that he’s available for school visits. Oh joy! What can Mr. Hall possibly teach students?
“Class, it’s okay to make fun of people who are different from you.”
Dr. RingDing, at 9:40 am EDT on August 3, 2007
So, the professor is happy he doesn’t have to be in the presence of a redneck? Doesn’t like answering the student’s questions? What?
Kevin, at 9:40 am EDT on August 3, 2007
I’m glad to see I’m not the only one confused by this sad attempt at humor. Exactly what is the point of this? This is supposed to be funny? Exactly what is this teaching? The only thing this could possibly be teaching is that the author isn’t all that bright or funny but that’s already pretty obvious.
Confused, at 10:00 am EDT on August 3, 2007
I don’t believe in overdoing political correctness, but this is terribly offensive.
Terri, at 11:40 am EDT on August 3, 2007
Too many of us got that message loud and clear when we were trying to find out footing in college.
In these times when so many of us are trying to convince more students that college can, indeed, be a good place for people like them, this is simply an appalling cartoon.
Matt and IHE really need to apologize for perpetuating the last acceptable stereotype in higher ed — class.
jill, at 11:40 am EDT on August 3, 2007
I’m assuming this is to convey the idea of “that one student” who makes the class uncomfortable and drives the professor crazy, either with pre-contrived ideas they won’t let go of or with generally disruptive behavior ultimately hindering their own and everyone else’s learning. It seems lots of people still feel it’s all right to resort to negative stereotypes of white people, making the “red neck” a convenient shorthand for that type of difficult student. Unfortunately the joke still isn’t funny—in fact it’s less funny by being so “safe” with its stereotyping (not to say that a black kid holding up a liquor store, as one commenter suggested, would be funny either, only that in its straining not to offend in the use of offensive stereotypes, the cartoon manages to be deeply offensive and unbearably tame at the same time). I’d like to point out further that before practically anyone could publish a comic on the web, I never realized how hard making a consistently funny and enjoyable cartoon was. I will now read “Doonesbury” with a fresh eye!
Jenn, at 11:40 am EDT on August 3, 2007
Wow, maintaining class heirarchy in higher education. Real original. Way to maintain elitism. Do you even understand the daily realities of working class people? How sad.
Joe, at 11:40 am EDT on August 3, 2007
Obviously NONE of you live in “Redneck Country” ... or you’d have an immense appreciation for this cartoon! Having grown up on the east coast and being (unfortunately) consigned to two more years in this miserable, uncultured, armpit of the country known as Texas — I know EXACTLY whereof Mr. Hall speaks. If you don’t like his cartoons, don’t read them ... but DO stop being politically-correct whiners.
DALH, at 11:40 am EDT on August 3, 2007
C’mon kids, it’s a joke. Someone proclaiming pride in their ignorance -look at his shirt! — does not belong in a college classroom.
You don’t get a cookie for skipping class to watch Wrestlemania.
Joseph C., at 11:40 am EDT on August 3, 2007
This is truly deplorable. As someone who was born and raised in a small town, I’m not holding my breath that a future cartoon lampoons ‘city slickers’ in the same manner. This just furthers a stereotype that is inaccurate and untrue.
Robert, at 11:40 am EDT on August 3, 2007
I’m not surprised at the response to the cartoon, because I know a lot of the readers of Inside Higher Ed are bigots with no sense of humor and who are very defensive when they feel they are being made fun of, but any fool can see why this is funny — it gives voice to something many teachers have wanted to do, but don’t do because they are professionals. So, I’ll try to explain it to the morons who commented above. Once in a while, we’ve all had students that we’d rather didn’t come to class — those students didn’t want to learn, were disruptive, and got in the way of teaching everyone else. I wanted to tell those students to drop the class, but because I’m a professional and care, I instead spent many frustrating hours of my time trying to work with the student to turn him/her around, sometimes successfully. For those who think this cartoon was reverse racism because it poked fun at rednecks, they don’t understand what racism is. A college student who adopts a redneck lifestyle is making a choice to be an anti-intellectual (just like Bush in his presidency); an African-American is not choosing a lifestyle by being black (though a wealthy African American who pretends to be ghetto-gangsta is making that choice, and there are hundreds of jokes about them, most of them by African Americans.) And then of course, there is the whole history of oppression that black people have suffered because of the rednecks.
st, oh come on!!!, at 12:20 pm EDT on August 3, 2007
Aw, come on. Isn’t this cartoon really about us — and not the student? We all have students whose behavior makes then less than a pleasure to have in class. Maybe this character is one of them. Humor helps us to vent — and to examine our own attitudes in the process.
Marti, at 12:35 pm EDT on August 3, 2007
Well, as a master’s-holding redneck who is on her way to a PhD, I’m glad to see that, according to this cartoon, my professors apparently are thrilled with my attempt to become an educated individual who can make a contribution to society. This is absolutely deplorable. And for those professors uncomfortable with those of us who came from trailer parks and have worked tooth and nail to get where we are today, kiss my grits.
Lisa, at 1:25 pm EDT on August 3, 2007
Strikes me that this is a teachable moment for the author of the cartoon. Without the redneck T-Shirt this might have been funny.
Some of my best friends ..., at 1:25 pm EDT on August 3, 2007
First, DALH can feel free to leave Texas at any time! I certainly wouldn’t want him/her to feel forced to spend “two more years in this miserable, uncultured, armpit of the country known as Texas". As a Hoosier that moved to Texas just two years ago, DALH obviously doesn’t appreciate the warmth and hospitality that Texans live by and for. So if DALH needs some help packing up early, I’m available any time. And it would seem to me that Texas might just be a more welcoming place without him/her. Texans may be a unique group of people, but they are wonderful to live amongst. Second, ST needs to realize that the major mission of a college is to educate students — taking each student where they are in their life and thinking process and exposing them to new ideas and the world as a whole. Somewhere along ST’s journey, I fear he/she lost sight of our mission. And while the claim that this cartoon is racist may not be correct, the educated folks I know would all certainly agree it is discriminatory.Lastly,I love humor...I just didn’t see any in this cartoon.
Becki, at 1:25 pm EDT on August 3, 2007
Uh, ST? No one has said anything about reverse racism. They’ve said a lot about classism.
But I’m sure that you’re right ST: the oppression of blacks has been at the hands of rednecks, who are obviously the people lobbying for and writing racist legislation restricting voter rights now, who flee with their kids to tony suburbs when the first black kids enroll in their neighborhood schools ("I’m sure that they’re nice kids, but they, well, just aren’t as motivated as our kids"), who are sure to hire a few — but no more — blacks in their corporations and law firms and academic departments, who push their little darlings to the front of the line for admissions to elite colleges and buy season tickets to watch black kids play football and basketball at the old alma matter while building liberal arguments against affirmative action, who send their kids to private schools instead of working to improve public schools, who discriminate in mortgage approval policies, who are the ones blocking access to affordable medical care and housing for the poor because that would violate “the market", who oppose the draft so that black kids continue to bear the disproportionate costs of this war.
Oh wait! Those were the middle-class “A” students in our classes who kissed up to us and then went on to great “success” within their old boy networks of fraternity brothers and family friends.
And by the way? My students find me hilarious.
Jill, at 2:40 pm EDT on August 3, 2007
Some people seem to be OFFENDED by this cartoon. When was the last time people were offended by a cartoon? Let’s see. . .
Second, ST needs to realize that the major mission of a college is to educate students — taking each student where they are in their life and thinking process and exposing them to new ideas and the world as a whole.
But what if the student does not want to be exposed to new ideas and the world as a whole. There are those who feel threatened by worldly knowledge and perceive such teachings as a fundamental violation of their beliefs. Many will violently fight against the teachings of the external world. Such people belong in class and society with others only so long as they are willing to think why they are in the class in the first place and reach a consensus for the purpose of higher learning.
Joseph C., at 2:45 pm EDT on August 3, 2007
First, I’d like to thank everyone for their comments. Then foremost, I wanted to say that I in no way, ever intended the character in the above cartoon to be emblematic for working poor students. That’s a reading I’d not considered. I simply wanted to depict a fictional character who was a difficult student. That’s it. His level of wealth, be it high, low or somewhere in the middle, wasn’t something I’d even considered. Having said that, I would like to apologize to anyone who was offended by this particular cartoon. I’ve gone ahead and changed what seems to be the offensive elements of the picture. IHE should have the new cartoon up in a short time. I doubt those of you who didn’t find it funny the first time will find the new version amusing. But at least, I hope, you won’t feel upset by it.—Matthew Henry Hall
Matthew Henry Hall, at 3:35 pm EDT on August 3, 2007
Let’s see, I grew up and graduated from high school in Western North Carolina. I received my undergraduate degree from a college in East Tennessee. I taught and coached in high schools and colleges in Southwest Virginia. I got a Ph.D. from Virginia Tech, and my first post-Ph.D. faculty position was at West Virginia University. If that doesn’t establish my credentials as a redneck, I’m not certain what else is required. Those of you who are offended by this Mathew Henry Hall cartoon are WUSSES! Most of you would greatly benefit from a course in the nature and structure of humor.
Now about humor itself. I generally believe jokes and cartoons about education are not the least bit funny. I happen to read 57 comic strips and cartoons daily. I love the strips. That said, I have never laughed at a frame of Marmaduke. I have never cracked a smile when reading Little Henry, Nancy and Sluggo, Beetle Bailey, or Cathy. By the same token, I think on one occasion, one of Mathew Henry Hall’s cartoons brought a smile to my face. I must admit, however that I greatly appreciate his funky drawings and occasionally supply my own “outrageously clever” punch lines to his drawings.
So you wusses, try to avoid Big Nate, Andy Capp, Doonesbury, and especially The Boondocks. Whatever you do, don’t attend a concert by Jon Stewart, Lewis Black, George Carlin, Dave Chappelle, Margaret Cho, Larry David, Jean Shepherd ... oh, the hell with it. Why am I even bothering with you wimps!!!
Frizbane Manley, at 4:20 pm EDT on August 3, 2007
A cartoonist apologizing to his audience? Outrageous! Fire him, IHE!
RWH, at 4:25 pm EDT on August 3, 2007
A picture of four sitting Native Americans with rifles on their laps and a caption: “Fighting Terrorism since 1492″
We would be unanimous supporters of the student?
Lee, at 5:15 pm EDT on August 3, 2007
This cartoon isn’t offensive, and it isn’t funny. It’s just stupid.
Gene, at 5:15 pm EDT on August 3, 2007
Thanks for changing the cartoon. As a working-class, “redneck” academic, this cartoon really smacked of elitism. Something that we run into all the time in the academy. Class heirarchy is alive and well in this country, especially in colleges, but now you’re awake to it. Welcome!
Joe, at 1:20 pm EDT on August 4, 2007
What was in the original cartoon that got the PC-crowd so upset? The first time I saw this page the cowardly cartoonist had bowed to the outraged masses. (Shades of Danish cartoons?) Anyone know where the original can be found?
Robert, at 5:40 pm EDT on August 5, 2007
The original cartoon can be found at:
Dr. RingDing, at 10:05 am EDT on August 6, 2007
Did I miss something? How do we know the cartoon character is a redneck? He looks more like a fifties beatnik to me.
R. Ray, at 11:00 am EDT on August 6, 2007
OK, I’ve seen the original, and Frisbane is right, all you whiners are wusses! My whole family is from Appalachia, and the original cartoon was no more “offensive” than Jeff Foxworthy’s comedy shows. Get a grip people.
Robert, at 4:20 am EDT on August 7, 2007
Huh? I am totally lost. I looked at this cartoon and heard the dismal professor who taught the (graduate) course I took this summer on classroom management essentially telling students not to bother to come to class, do the work, etc. I guess satire is in the eyes of the beholder
Judith, at 6:30 pm EDT on September 10, 2007
I saw the humor in the cartoon...
I had to smile at Dahl’s comments about whiners....ha ha. We have a saying in Texas, if you dislike it so much here, go back to the east coast, or from the red-necks: ’suck it up and shutup or leave.’ But I say that in fun, ha ha, I’m sorry you don’t like Texas, but try to lighten up while you’re here,you know, change your perspective. Obviously there’s something here worthwhile to you, you just have to admit it :)
free lancer, at 6:30 pm EDT on September 18, 2007
Saddened
I’m saddened and disappointed that Inside Higher Education would publish a cartoon that furthers stereotypes and labels.
Joan, at 7:10 am EDT on August 3, 2007