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Aug. 3, 2007
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The PBS documentary aired 2/20/07 “Hip Hop: Beyond Beats and Rhymes” is an excellent analysis of how positive hip hop values and cultural expressions have been hijacked by corporate and often white elites who encourage “gangsta rap". This background is essential for understanding the Imus-Rutgers Women Basketball controversy and issues over any rapper appearing on any campus. The video spurred excellent thought, debate and learning in my Business Ethics class at Fairleigh Dickenson University. I also began a discussion of the VT killings and various levels of responsibility and possible preventative measures. I am with the family objection to a violence-promoting rapper at their concert. I ask earlier commenter whether Ms. Giovanni’s poem and tatoo are from the past and, hopefully, reconsidered. If not, then he has a good point, but two wrongs still don’t make a right.-Barrie Alan Peterson
Barrie Peterson, at 8:35 am EDT on August 3, 2007
Good point. That poem also includes the line, “Can you run a protestant down with your/ ‘68 El Dorado/ (that’s all they’re good for anyway),” and I think this is a terrible thing to say about the ‘68 El Dorado, which was, on balance, a pretty nonviolent car.
Quite apart from the fact that tattoos reading “thug life” are clearly responsible for campus shooting sprees, I think ‘68 El Dorado owners everywhere should protest Nikki Giovanni’s slur against their vehicles.
Michael Bérubé, at 8:40 am EDT on August 3, 2007
Michael, you’re right. The Plymouth ‘58 Fury, though, on the other hand ...
Maurice Meilleur, University of Illinois, at 9:40 am EDT on August 3, 2007
The point is that to include Nas in the concert was dumb PR on the part of VaTech.
It’s about as dumb as staging a protest of the Iraq War at the funeral of a US solider killed in Baghdad. It may feel good, but it’s inappropriate to the cause, to the victims and to the reason for the event.
It’s dumb, dumb, dumb, and it gives the opponents of academic freedom just one more argument for the need of adult supervision for those running our campuses.
DP Cadwell, at 9:40 am EDT on August 3, 2007
OK, let’s look at what is being put on here and who’s putting it on. A benefit concert for the Virginia Tech community has been put together by the university with the assistance of Dave Matthews and the other three artists. I would like to think that both the university and Dave Matthews (who has been part of many benefit concerts over the years) thought about who was going to be included and what songs may be performed. Nas has some hardcore songs, that’s a fact, but he also has some very deep, poetic lyrics of making it through hard times. Can’t you give someone the benefit of the doubt here and respect that the university, the performing artists, and the other organizers of the concert have probably thought through almost all of the ramifications of putting on an event such as this and including the artists that they currently have? Maybe, just maybe, all of the songs select to be performed on September 6 are going to be strong songs that will both support and entertain those attending the concert. Or I could just have this whole benefit concert thing all confused.
Grad student in Blacksburg, Virginia Tech, at 9:55 am EDT on August 3, 2007
It’s easy to take one song and run with it. Anyone who knows hip hop knows that the 2007 Nas is one of the most positive “rappers” today. His latest cd talked about violence and guns and the destruction on communities. He also talked about how he matured since his early days as a rapper. He talked about ending “beefs” peacefully instead of violently. I’m a parent of teenagers; Nas is one of very few hip hop artist that I allow my kids to listen to.
Ralph, at 11:40 am EDT on August 3, 2007
If the “objective” of this special free concert is for the VT students -and somehow is supposed to ostensibly continue the healing process on campus, then it really doesn’t matter what Dave Matthews, Nas, other performing artists, and the organizers believe or want .... sensitivity to the VT tragedy and common sense -relative to a tragedy of this magnitude— should prevail.
On the other hand, if this special free concert is someone’s idea of “hey, let’s have a concert for the students ... that would be neat ... we’ll even get some good PR out of this ... after all it’s free and look who’s performing,” then fine, have a concert.
However, in all due respect for not only the victims, families, and friends of the VT tragedy, but also out of a sense of decency, of understanding human grief and the healing process, do NOT link the concert with the tragedy -at any level.
Michael, at 12:05 pm EDT on August 3, 2007
I recall reading Ms. Giovanni’s provocative poem in the early 1970’s as a young college student, when the Black Power Movement was still a place for those of us who were Black, proud and frustrated. The words were then, as they are now, disturbingly vulgar, direct and angry. Indeed, that is what makes the poem so very compelling now, as it did then.As for the tattoo, I understand that it is in homage to Tupac Shakur, the deceased rapper. Ms. Giovanni continues to use her artistry as an avenue for expressing her political beliefs as a Black woman in America.
sheila, at 12:20 pm EDT on August 3, 2007
I’m sorry, people, but I get really flippin’ tired of hip hop artists getting run down by those who know nothing about the genre’s context or history. Nas is by no means a “violence-promoting rapper". He has lots of other lyrics you could quote that are positive and, dare I say it, inspirational. Why not judge him on that? Do you think maybe Nas might have the sensitivity and intelligence to shape his performance at Virginia Tech in light of the events of last year? It could happen. I’m not all that familiar with his stuff, but familiar enough with the genre to know that lyrics from one song 8 years ago, taken out of context, from people who sound like they’re biased from the get go, probably isn’t a great way to judge someone’s “appropriateness” for a concert.
Hip Hop Fan, at 1:25 pm EDT on August 3, 2007
Let’s set the record straight...Nas is not a ‘gangsta’ rapper as many would purport. One commenter spoke to the fact that NG made those remarks in the past, and that she has moved on. The same could be said about Nasir (Nas) Jones. As an owner of several of his albums, one can see the transformation from ’street hustler’ to ‘ghetto poet’ over the years in his music.
This is just another example of the short-sighted and uninformed bandwagoneering that occurs every day, on either side of race, gender, religion, etc. People know don’t know ‘nothin about nothin’ always have something to say about everything!
Educated Nas Fan, at 6:00 pm EDT on August 3, 2007
Clearly, they should do background checks. My Lord, there might be other professors out there who wrote poems forty years ago with offensive words in them! Think of the children!
rufus, at 10:55 pm EDT on August 3, 2007
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thug life
I wonder how many of the complaining family members gave Distinguished Professor of English, Nikki Giovanni, a standing ovation after recitation of her “We Are Virginia Tech” poem at the convocation. Do they approve of her tattoo, which reads, “Thug Life,” or her poems, which include the lines:
Nigger Can you kill Can you kill Can a nigger kill Can a nigger kill a honkie Can a nigger kill the Man. . . Can you stab-a-Jew. . . Can you piss on a blond head Can you cut it off Can you kill. . . Fire for good measure Can you splatter their brains in the street Can you kill themCan you lure them to bed to kill them. . .
Alan Cordle, Virginia Tech class of ‘92, at 7:10 am EDT on August 3, 2007