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Nov. 22, 2006
Early this year, the National Collegiate Athletic Association quietly announced that it would hold a scholarly conference on college sports in January, in conjunction with the group’s centennial. Now, even more quietly, the association has scuttled the event, leaving several scholars who had been planning to participate in it perplexed. The lack of a formal explanation for the postponement, which has not been formally announced, has left them somewhat suspicious, too, given the environment that characterizes the relationship between many faculty members and big-time college sports.
“Was it that they didn’t like the stuff they were receiving — was it too critical of the NCAA?” wondered Richard Southall, an assistant professor of health and sport science at the University of Memphis who is active in the Drake Group, a consortium of faculty members who are critical of big-time college sports.
The association’s president, Myles Brand, insists that the conspiracy theorists are off-base. The reason for the postponement was simple, he says: The papers received “were not of the quality one would expect for a scholarly conference, or at least there weren’t enough of them to put on a conference.” Brand said that the NCAA staff members and others who had been involved in planning the original meeting were not familiar enough with higher education to fully understand what an academic conference was all about, and that when Brand himself got involved and saw the nature of the abstracts that had been submitted, he realized the conference was ill-fated.
“Rather than put on a mediocre conference, and get off to a bad start,” Brand said, the association decided to start from scratch. It has lined up a group of what he called “leading academicians” to meet at the NCAA’s annual convention in early January to plan a new conference, scheduled for January 2008.
Brand said it was premature to identify who the scholars are, but one of them, R. Scott Kretchmar, a professor of exercise and sport science at Pennsylvania State University and an expert on the philosophy of sport, said the association “literally went after the top names in sports literature, sport management, the physiology of sport, sport law.... We’re looking to make the conference timely, thematic, interesting, provocative,” Kretchmar said.
Kretchmar was among those who submitted a paper — on the “futility of legislating one’s way to morality in college sports” — for the conference the first time around. Kretchmar, who is the faculty athletics representative at Penn State, said that had he not been active in NCAA affairs, he “would not have responded to the initial invitation,” because like other scholars, he must pick and choose which scholarly meetings he wants to take the time and energy to participate in.
“There’s only so much money and so much time, and a lot of researchers are going to choose to present at conferences that bring you some kind of high level academic perk,” Kretchmar said. “The NCAA would not be seen as a place where you’d get those better points, and I’d bet dollars to doughnuts that that’s why they had relatively few responses from bona fide scholars.”
Steve Walk, who is an associate professor of sport sociology at California State University at Fullerton, is on the board of the North American Society for the Sociology of Sport and serves on the boards of both the Sociology of Sport Journal and Sociological Perspectives. Walk, who is Fullerton’s faculty representative to the NCAA, said he too is not surprised that relatively few scholars chose to participate in the NCAA meeting — but for a different reason.
“This is a bit of an overdrawn analogy, but it’s a little like Halliburton sponsoring a conference on government waste,” Walk said, referring to the mammoth energy company. “It’s really going to be difficult to trust the basic premise of an NCAA conference on the virtues of intercollegiate athletics, and I think the lack of enthusiasm was because people were sniffing out a bit of hypocrisy here and just avoiding it.”
Brand says such criticism is ill-informed. The NCAA decided to sponsor the academic conference, he said, because it wanted to involve faculty members not in role they sometimes play on their campuses — helping to oversee and govern the sports programs — but in their primary role as scholars. “The idea was that there’s another role for faculty in intercollegiate athletics that we haven’t taken up at the NCAA, and that’s to treat intercollegiate athletics as the subject matter for research,” said Brand, a philosopher who was president of Indiana University before taking the reins at the NCAA. “We thought it would be helpful if the NCAA would be supportive of that effort.”
The NCAA’s mistake, Brand acknowledges now, was putting responsibility for the conference in the hands of “really nice people” on the NCAA staff — “non-academicians” — who “really didn’t understand” how to stage a scholarly conference. “It was not taken seriously by scholars in the field,” he said. “Some of the best bypassed it, because it wasn’t presented in the right way.”
Several scholars who submitted papers to the original conference said that they had wrestled with the issues Walk raised, about whether the NCAA could put on a legitimate scholarly conference about college sports. But they said they had ultimately decided that the association deserved the benefit of the doubt, and that “a scholarly exchange right in the heart of the NCAA decision making process” was worth encouraging, as one put it.
“I thought, Why not go down there and share my data in an open forum — that’s what we’re supposed to do as scholars,” said Southall of Memphis. Although NCAA officials declined to characterize the nature of the papers the association did receive, it is clear that some if not most of the professors who submitted papers are members of the Drake Group or otherwise critics of college sports, and at least some of their papers were of the sort that the Drake Group fields at its own annual conference, which takes place each year in the same city (but certainly not the same venue) as the NCAA’s Final Four. (Among the titles of papers prepared for submission at last year’s Drake conference, in Indianapolis, were “Management’s Role in Controlling Unethical and Illegal Behavior in Sport Organizations,” “One Hundred Fifty-Four Years of Intercollegiate Sports and the Reforms that Never Happened,” and “The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly: NCAA Recruiting Trips.")
Brand would not say whether papers like that dominated the submissions to the NCAA event. But when he looked at the papers — “and having been in the academy for 40 years, I think I can tell the difference between a good paper and something that’s not high quality,” Brand said — he saw too many of the latter and too few of the former, he said.
That’s when the association decided to start from scratch, and to convene “the leading scholars in their fields, from sociology, history, literature, economics, business,” to plan the meeting and, ultimately, referee the papers. Brand says he is confident that the 2008 conference will produce important work that measures up to material published in scholarly journals.
Walk, of Cal State-Fullerton, isn’t so sure. “I think it will be very difficult for him to assemble a group, certainly of sociologists, to participate in this anytime soon.”
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Why is anyone surprised?
Teri, at 9:50 am EST on November 22, 2006
Why don’t you guys (those who submitted papers and others who might now be interested) go to a foundation such as the Knight Foundation and seek funds to run your own conference? Better yet, make it an annual event. And invite Brand Myles to come and give his critical comments on your “inferior” work... Any scholarly event sponsored by the NCAA that purported to give an independent assessment of college athletics would have been suspect in the first instance.
Art Padilla, Professor at NC State U, at 10:20 am EST on November 22, 2006
I am a 2nd year doctorate student in the Higher, Adult, Lifelong Education program at Michigan State University, and have particular interest in intercollegiate athletics.
I submitted a research proposal to the NCAA for consideration for the 2007 conference that was NOT critical of the NCAA. It has policy recommendationsfor higher education based on data about “perceptions of racial diversity among college athletes in Michigan.”
The NCAA delayed the initial application process for sometime, and the individual who was in charge of developing the parameters for the submission process never returned any of my emails. Finally, the initial deadline was pushed back to July 1 — I learned that from the NCAA website on my own.
I busted my tail, and worked feverishly to prepare this for submission to meet the July 1 deadline. So, when I saw that the submission site remained up for nearly a month after the deadline, my heart sank. Why work so hardto reach a deadline when others can submit afterwards? Obviously, my first impression was that they did not receive enough responses.
Then, I received an email that the NCAA cancelled it. They never responded to my inquiry as to why.
My point is this: for a budding scholar with a particular and specific interest in intercollegiate athletics and policy, and who does NOT have an axe to grind with the NCAA, and generally has philosophical views in support of the role of athletics in academics... well, they certainly left a bad taste in my mouth.
If the latest Presidential Task Force report aims at involving scholars and faculty to take a leadership role in reforming college athletics, they certainly can do a better job at reaching out to support developing researchers who want to study this field, such as myself.
Not responding with any reason, and not following their own guidelines, certainly is not a good start.
However, not knowing what to expect out of the NCAA, on good advice from my academic advisor, I also submitted my proposal to the Association for Studies in Higher Education 2006 annual conference; it was accepted, and Ipresented it as a poster with wonderful feedback. ASHE provided the experience the NCAA should have. That doesn’t bode well if the NCAA wants to involve faculty and scholarship.
I am hopeful that the NCAA will allow for submissions next year, and that they will consider supporting future scholarship in the area. There needs to be a place for solid research from budding scholars to help providefuture benefit in athletics. Otherwise, “we” may find something else to do.
The NCAA’s pr machine to involve faculty and scholars leaves much to be desired and they have a lot of work to do.
Anyhow, I thought I would share my experiences with you.
Scott HirkoMichigan State University
Scott Hirko, Michigan State University, at 10:32 am EST on November 22, 2006
The professors of the Drake Group feel justified in questioning the academic quality of the students they get on athletic scholarships. Conversely, the NCAA feels justified in questioning the academic quality of the papers on college athletics it received from the professors of the Drake Group and on that ground the NCAA has punted (pardon the expression) on holding an academic conference on college sports in its centennial year.
That is the equivalent of the Drake Group inviting the NCAA to play a football game but cancelling it on the claim that the NCAA team wasn’t good enough to play. By cancelling a conference where they might be criticized, the NCAA isn’t just showing bad scholarship. They’re also bad sports.
Jack Olson, at 11:00 am EST on November 22, 2006
I also am fortunate do some work to assist the Knight Commission on a few items, and they are looking at this disconnect between faculty and athletics.
There will be a “Faculty Summit on Intercollegiate Athletics” on May 14, 2007, in Washington, D.C.
The summit will be held at the Dorothy Betts Marvin Theatre at the Marvin Center, The George Washington University. Registration and additional information about the Faculty Summit will be made available at a later date.
Stay tuned to http://www.knightcommission.org for more details as they become available.
Scott Hirko, at 11:45 am EST on November 22, 2006
Perhaps those who have already prepared papers for this non-event can recycle them for presentation at the inevitable Congressional hearings on NCAA and anti-trust law that we should see next year. One hearing with some “graduates” of our sports powerhouses answering direct questions about their so-called educational experiences could have the same effect as the hearing when McGuire, Sosa, and Palmeiro denied their steroid use.
Barry Orton, Professor at University of Wisconsin-Madison, at 12:20 pm EST on November 22, 2006
I’ve started, stopped, and rewritten my comments about five times. Must be something I ate last night, but nothing seems to sound just right. I know I’m taking a gamble and these comments may be deemed mediocre, inferior, “ill-fated” or “...not of the quality one would expect for a scholarly conference” but here goes...
I was going to mention I was asked by the “nice people” in charge of the postponed NCAA conference to serve on the conference’s review committee, but never received a single submission (inferior or otherwise) to review.
I was going to deconstruct Dr. Brand’s comments, pointing out how he attempts to disparage the scholarship of TDG members, while not mentioning anyone by name, and actually not commenting on any specific work. Maybe all the deficient scholarship was submitted by NCAA Faculty Athletic Representatives? Of course, we can’t say any such thing, since the process is a blind-review one. (Unless Dr. Brand saw the names of the authors.) Dr. Brand’s comments are similar to those found in a non-apologetic apology that actually denigrates those who criticize the individual.
I was going to say, he must have learned that technique during his 40 years in academe, but I thought, “No, don’t go there. Such a remark would surely be “ill-informed.”
I was going to volunteer (as I have on two previous occasions) to help the NCAA in planning their next conference (I know, I know, my involvement might cause the conference to degenerate into mediocrity, but at least I could bring a laptop and a LCD projector if they need one.)
I was also going to submit a list of 20-30 scholars and experts for the NCAA to choose from in inviting it’s “‘leading academicians’ to meet at the NCAA’s annual convention in early January to plan a new conference, scheduled for January 2008,” but I thought...why not invite those people to participate in a lecture/panel series on Issues in College Sports to be held at The University of Memphis in late March and April? (Note: Dr. Brand will be receiving his invitation along with the other “top names” in college-sport scholarship”
I was going to do all of those things, but instead, I’ll just wish Dr. Brand a Happy Thanksgiving and hope that next year the dog won’t have eaten his conference-planning homework, and that the NCAA can put on a “high quality” conference.
Richard Southall, Assistant Professor at The University of Memphis, at 1:01 pm EST on November 22, 2006
I recall Myles Brand from his Oregon days when he was in charge of the University of Oregon. The conference halt is a surprise, but the specious quality of excuse that he has contrived is not.
Marvin McConoughey, at 1:01 pm EST on November 22, 2006
Mr. Ridpath, You realize, of course that scholars call each others work “low quality” all the time, constrained by only political considerations. You think this is bad? Imagine how students feel when professors assert their dominance by calling it “low quality.”
Larry, at 2:10 pm EST on November 22, 2006
It is hard to know, whether to laugh, or cry, or both, about this.
Has the NCAA, tighten up academic standards, of recent? OF COURSE.
http://www1.ncaa.org/membership/m...hip_svcs/academic_support/index.html
Is too much time, spent on big-time college sports? Of course — just go into any dorm cafeteria and ask how much ESPN is viewed on the big-screen TV.
Thus — if TDG is truly brave — why don’t they try to ban ESPN on dorm big-screen TVs? And become as popular of U.S. Rep. Charles Rangel and his proposal to force young people into public service drafts? (Yo, TDG — just be sure to have kelvar vests on, when you turn off ESPN — you’ll need them.)
Is TDG, so certain of the rightness of their cause, they refuse to objectively consider any other data? Well, consider carefully, how cooly-rational these TDG paper titles are — “One Hundred Fifty-Four Years of Intercollegiate Sports and the Reforms that Never Happened,” “The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly: NCAA Recruiting Trips.” Very rational, eh?
As for Myles Brand — has TDG forgotten, he fired Bobby Knight? After Murray Sperber’s step-son rudely addressed Knight in public in a video-taped incident? When TDG starts eliminating ESPN on dorm TVs — that’s when TDG can start criticizing Brand, IMHO.
Finally, all the hoo-hah about the conference scheduling matter:
Why, of course — everything in academia, runs so well. General Electric and IBM are going over to Harvard and Ohio State to pick up some management pointers — right after TDG and Bobby Knight break bread together.
B.D., at 2:55 pm EST on November 22, 2006
I have read a number of the comments here by “B.D.", and this last one is especially fascinating. The tone and strategy of the post is a textbook example of psychological bullying. It’s a mixture of cajoling, threats, attempts to erase distinctions and to blame victims, and loud claims that the people who are challenging the bullies are no different than the bullies themselves. If you want a nearly identical example, listen to any of Saddam Hussein’s tirades during his recent trial. It’s not accidental; it’s a polished strategy of psychological abuse and manipulation.
Fascinated, at 4:00 pm EST on November 22, 2006
” .. the people who are challenging the bullies are no different than the bullies themselves ..”
Au contraire, mon ami. C’est vous qui est le tyran. Vous ne le savez pas juste pourtant.
B.D., at 5:40 pm EST on November 22, 2006
B.D. but you are again off base. Those papers you speak of were submitted at the Drake Group Conference and NOT for the NCAA conference. Read the article again. In fact my paper concerned factors that influence the academic performance of college athletes. Hardly a radical paper.
We have nothing to do with ESPN, nor do we care. What we care about is academic integrity and the NCAA ‘tightening” up standards is hardly worth the paper it is printed on. For more on this visit our website with links to some solid research.
Brand can criticize if he wants, but the bluk of submissions that I know of had already been published etc. Brand alone can’t criticize that—he himself admitted the conference planners were new at this. Plus two of my collegues were invited to be reviewers and they never saw paper one.
A lot of people put a ton of work in this and NCAA yet again, made a huge PR blunder. They are not making friends with academia—go figure.
BTW—we do put on our own conference. Please go to www.thedrakegroup.org. for info. We invite all submissions—positive or negative toward our mission. We will not cancel if criticized. Also Dr. Southall puts on a great speaker series at U Memphis. Brand has been invited to both for several years—he has yet to show.
Ridpath@ohio.edu, at 7:10 pm EST on November 22, 2006
B.D., R.S. here.
Since I’ve finished putting up my Christmas lights this afternoon, I wanted to take a moment to respond to your posting. You raise several points and I appreciate your offering your viewpoint. If you are available, I would invite you to attend any one of the five weekly panels that will be held on the campus of The University of Memphis this spring. I would be glad to include you on any one of the panels so that an objective and rational discussion of the data can take place. Just need to know where to send the invite.
Now, to your well-considered points:
1) Why would anyone want to ban ESPN or any other television network? That seems to me to be censorship and I have no interest in that at all. I firmly believe in freedom of speech, freedom of the press, and academic freedom. I’m not sure what your point was with that remark, but it seems a bit irrational:) (Sorry if my tone’s a bit harsh; I hit my thumb while putting up those lights!)
2) For the record, and I can only speak for myself, I am always interested in looking at new data. Being actively involved in researching college sports, I have uncovered a good bit about college athletics, but do not consider myself to have all the answers by any means. I’m not sure why you even brought up the titles of presentations at TDG conference, but it is within the realm of possibility the authors intended to be provocative in their choice of titles. However, without having attended a specific presentation, how can you make a comment on that presentation’s content?
FYI: Those papers were not “TDG papers.” It is not a prerequisite that an attendee at TDG conference be a member of The Drake Group in order to present. The purpose of the conference is to share research, not put forth any specific political agenda. The quality of the presentations may vary, but an open dialogue on the actual issues is the point of all of this.
In addition, several “cooly-rational” NCAA staff members attended last year’s TDG conference, with some sitting on invited panels. There was an open dialogue and exchange of ideas at the conference. Members of TDG and the NCAA staff often know each other. We may disagree on certain issues, but we talk to each other. In the past several months I have personally contacted the NCAA for specific data and the staff member was accomodating in getting me the information I requested.For the record, several members of the media, including Gary Brown from The NCAA News, and Mark Alesia from the Indianapolis Star attended last year’s conference. The conference is open to anyone and everyone. would love to have you submit an abstract:)
3)If you want to share any data you have on intercollegiate athletics, you can send it to me anytime. I will do my best to objectively consider it and would gladly change my view on the issue if the data supported such a change. If you are interested in having me send you data from several studies my colleagues and I have conducted, I just need to know where to send it. (Is that BD@yahoo.com?)
4) Not sure what Myles Brand’s firing a basketball coach has to do with his unilaterally postponing an academic conference, but I’m sure there is a logical connection somewhere. I just can’t objectively find it.
5) I actually have a great deal of respect for Coach Knight as a basketball coach. Defending academic integrity, however, is not his job; it’s the job of faculty. I’m not sure, but I bet Coach Knight would agree with many of the positions of TDG. And if he disagreed with some, I bet he’d enjoy a lively debate on the issues, though he might take one on the chin in a discussion with some members of TDG. (Sorry, I couldn’t help myself:) Again, I have no idea what TDG members having dinner with Coach Knight has to do with a discussion of the rationale for postponing an academic conference....
6) Perhaps we could “break bread” sometime and you could enlighten me on how exactly the NCAA has tightened up academic standards. I’m a little fuzzy on that one. Still waiting for the NCAA to release the “disclosure” data that would meaningfully addess academic integrity issues.
Finally, as far as dinner’s concerned, don’t worry, I’ll pick up the tab. It’s the least I can do to repay you for the chance to discuss these issues.
I’d love to chat more, but I have to go watch “SportsCenter.”
Richard Southall, Assistant Professor at The University of Memphis, at 7:15 pm EST on November 22, 2006
I wanted to add a few facts and a bit of context to the comments I made for this piece. First, my assumption was that Mr. Lederman contacted me as President of the North American Society for the Sociology of Sport (I am now Past President—I think Mr. Lederman got hold of an outdated version of my vita on our university website—our fault, not his) and because he thought I might either have been asked to participate in the conference (I received two emails on the conference, but, like others, did not respond to the call for papers, having plenty on my plate already) and/or have some observations about why sociologists of sport might have chosen not to participate.
As Faculty Athletic Representative for my institution, I am a voting member of the NCAA and would not be unless I felt my voice could work to the benefit of our students, our university, our conference (of which I am also a voting member), if perhaps, in some small way, the entire enterprise. Richard Southall and David Ridpath are colleagues of mine (I attended TDG session at the NASSS Conference in Vancouver three weeks ago), and although I am not a Drake Group member, I listen to what these scholars have to say and believe more generally that the TDG perspective is an important counterpoint to the largely uncritical endorsements that are found most everywhere else. Indeed, I believe critical examination of the culture and practices of intercollegiate athletics, with particular attention to the well being of students and the scholarly mission of institutions, is a key component to academic integrity and an essential part of the job of an FAR. When I attended my third FARA (Faculty Athletics Representatives Association) meeting this past week in New Orleans I was again encouraged to find that a number of my faculty athletic representative colleagues share this perspective.
My prediction that Dr. Brand might have difficulties recruiting sociologists to take part in such a conference was based on a number of observations, not just the perception by some of my colleagues in NASSS that the NCAA is the “evil empire,” i.e., the Haliburton analogy. Anyone who knows the culture of sociologists and related academics knows that they/we tend to employ critical perspectives, approach large, bureaucratic organizations with suspicion and more generally don’t participate in scholarship that endorses the status quo—this is Sociology 101. Knowing my colleagues in NASSS, I told Mr. Lederman that I believed most sociologists would look at such a conference with some misgivings and likely be more interested in other venues for their scholarship, as Scott Kretchmar (certainly a top scholar in the field, whose text book I am using this semester) observed.
What Scott and others might also point out is that the vast majority of research on sport in the United States has been conducted on intercollegiate athletes, and that such scholarship has been going on for decades. Hence, I also suggested to Mr. Lederman, in this context, that there may be some academic “turf” and gatekeeping issues at work here. What I am referring to, in particular, is scholars or organizations that “stop by” and study sport when they happen to see it as presenting some interesting social, cultural and political questions, issue the “definitive” work on the subject, and move on to more important things. Some scholars are, I think understandably, frustrated by such practices and may have seen an institutionalized version of this coming in the proposed conference (i.e. the NCAA sponsors a carefully orchestrated conference, issues an edited book, and goes on with business as usual).
Finally, I am not in any position to comment on the management or public relations issues related to the planning of this conference, but I might suggest that sponsoring such an event and getting large-scale interest and participation would likely entail a long-term commitment that includes a vision about where such scholarship fits within the mission and structure of the NCAA as well as the careful cultivation of relationships with scholars who study college sports.
Steve Walk, Professor at Cal State Fullerton, at 7:10 am EST on November 23, 2006
There is no way Bobby Knight will get involved with TDG as long as Murray Sperber is a member. However Coach Knight would probably agree with most of TDG’s proposals, and his steadfast support of ending freshman eligibility is well know and an appropriate proposal to bring the student back in student athlete.
TDG has obviously touched a nerve with the delicately skinned NCAA and Myles Brand, but it is nerve that is in desperate need of touching if not shocking. The NCAA has been a willing accomplice to the train wreck that is D1 men’s basketball and football. As long as the cash registers are ringing like a Vegas casino, the NCAA is perfectly happy to play the PR, distract the public, shell game while keeping its head in the sand.
Off base? Let’s see....the Harricks, massive academic fraud at Minnesota, sex and alcohol parties for football recruits at Colorado, a murder and attempted cover up at Baylor, the “Tarnished 5″ at Michigan (the best players money could buy), a former Ohio State coach that directly paid a recruit and the NCAA gives OSU and the coach a pass for missing a response deadline by 2 days, lavish living arrangements for Reggie Bush’s family, and dubious course"work” at Auburn. Isolated incidents? Full steam ahead with the PR campaign, Myles, those icebergs are nothing to worry about.
Now if you’ll excuse me, I have a basketball final from Prof. Harrick tomorrow and I hear it is a killer!
Myles to go before I sleep, at 4:40 am EDT on May 15, 2007
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Oh Myles—C’mon
This is pretty hilarious considering most of TDG submitted papers, including myself, submitted research that has been accepted for publication in peer reviewed journals and published abstracts for previous conferences.
The NCAA asked for previous, ongoing, or new studies and they got some great stuff from TDG members. I don’t think Myles being in the academy for 40 years qualifies him to judge papers in a discipline he is unfamilar with. I would like to know how many low quality papers were on the radar screen. Considering the top-notch scholars that I know many who submitted papers—and any reference to their work being low quality, and my own, is insulting. It appears Myles was the only referee for this conference, and I am certain he is not qualified to make decisions like this unilaterally.
With that being said, I would like Myles to state who exactly sent in “bad stuff,” because I would love to challenge him on the quality of the manuscripts since most had already gone through a rigorous peer review process. Unfortunately I expect him to duck this debate with me as he has many others.
Frankly I do not buy it—the submissions were simply not the one’s the NCAA wanted. I believe they were surprised at the topics submitted and they panicked. I have no doubt he put the wrong people in charge (which happens many times at the NCAA office in various areas), but this is a major PR gaffe that he has been trying to sweep under the rug—yet again.
As much as I don’t want to submit to the next conference, because I am certain it would not meet Myles’ standards, I am going to do exactly that and I encourage others to do the same, even if it probably is not the right thing to do given this latest debacle out of Indianapolis.
B. David Ridpath, Asst. Professor at Ohio University, at 9:50 am EST on November 22, 2006