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Sept. 13, 2006
Hockey fans at Boston University are a raucous bunch. Every game, hundreds of students paint their faces scarlet and white and come out wearing their lucky hockey jerseys to support their beloved Terriers. Alums, too, turn out in droves game after game. Almost everyone holds a special distaste for their longtime rival, the Boston College Eagles.
And for years, they’ve loudly voiced that distaste through vulgar chants.
It seems that whenever the foes meet, an excited BU student stands up to rally the following cheer: “Fuck ‘em up, fuck ‘em up, BC sucks.” The student band used to accompany the cheer with music, but quit a few years back after being admonished by administrators. Still, that hasn’t stopped the mantra from echoing through the 6,300 seat Agganis Arena, which is one of only a few college hockey venues where alcohol is sold and consumed during games.
When the Eagles happen to be doing well — like in March, when Boston College beat Boston University in an NCAA regional final game — sometimes fans turn their wicked words toward Boston College’s head hockey coach: “Gerry York, Gerry York, he’s the meanest, sucks the biggest penis,” they scream. “Gerry York is a horse’s ass.”
After years of such language, administrators apparently have had enough. According to a report in The Boston Globe on Tuesday, they have instituted a policy that calls for university police to oust any fans who swear, or use sexist or racist remarks during sporting events. The article indicates that the policy has been vetted by a lawyer and does not violate First Amendment rights.
Many students and alums admit that the chants are vulgar, but some say that they are a tradition at the institution and should not be policed. Some also argue that including racism and sexism in any policy would cast an unwarranted negative light on students and alums.
“We’re coming off as racist and sexist,” said Nick Cardamone, a recent BU graduate who now works with the student newspaper, The Daily Free Press. “I think that people know the line on those issues.”
While Cardamone doesn’t believe that the university should approve of vulgarity, he said there is no need for administrators to be so heavy-handed. “I can sort of see why BU wants to change the image,” he said. “But I don’t think you can completely control it.”
“You can always talk like that in your own home, like I do,” suggested Cardamone. He added that Boston College students usually do not engage in obscenities at games nearly as much as BU fans.
Colin Riley, a spokesman for BU, said Tuesday that the university had no comment on the issue. But Kenneth Elmore, dean of students at the institution, told the Globe that a policy has, indeed, been implemented. “[S]tanding and shouting obscenities does not have a place,” he told the paper. “I don’t equate school spirit with the yelling of obscenities.”
Riley said that Elmore was not available for comment on Tuesday.
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I hope more schools adopt this policy. For those of us who attend college games, being subjected to this language is nothing short of appalling. There are ways to show one’s support for a team without using profanity. Unfortunately this is a reflection of how the use of language continues to deteriorate in our society.
Susan, at 8:55 am EDT on September 13, 2006
The BU administrators are moving in the right direction, but just suddenly establishing rules will be ineffective. They should start by educating their students to appreciate common decency—have dialog sessions to really hash out why they want to turn the corner on this issue.
Engage the students eye-to-eye with a valid rationale and they will get on board. Many schools have implemented powerful school spirit traditions without being totally uncivil and still maintaining an environment that is enjoyable for the entire community.
Have a happy day!
Cal, at 9:05 am EDT on September 13, 2006
Lordy, lordy what a sniveling bunch of Victorian prudes have we at Boston University!
I hope the B.U. students completely ignore and scorn those witless do-gooders, continue their raucous cheering from the stands, and say whatever they damn well please at all sporting events.
The September 2006 issue of *The Atlantic* contains a fine review of Erica Jong’s latest book by Cristina Nehring who comments at length on Jong’s famous “zipless fuck.”
And in last week’s *New Yorker* (p. 140,) we learn about a Mississsippi doctor who publicly advised Vice President Cheney when he visited the area “to go fuck himself.”
When the priggish language cops at B.U. finish with their sanctimonious academic nanny-work, perhaps they can try persuading some high brow literary magazines to follow their lead.
Not!
Chuck, at 9:15 am EDT on September 13, 2006
Accusing a coach of having oral sex with a horse is vulgar to put it mildly and must be condemned on grounds of taste and sportsmanship (or lack of same). But, if we are to condemn this on the ground that it is sexist, are we really that concerned about hurting the feelings of people who have oral sex with horses?
Jack Olson, at 10:10 am EDT on September 13, 2006
So, Chuck, because one person does something lacking in good taste, that makes it ok for everyone else?? Do you base your morality choices on the choices others make?? If so, I feel sorry for you and your lack of character. It is not prudish to stand up for civilized behavior. I wish more people in this country stood up for family values! As it is, we can hardly bring our children anywhere or let them watch any TV — all because of the behavior that is permitted under the guise of “freedom of expression".
Sandra, at 10:46 am EDT on September 13, 2006
Those wily Boston University students are to be congratulated. Even vet-able lawyers and other whores know that the best way to energize language or behavior is to make it taboo. The fuck-w*** would have few users and fewer admirers if the Authorities would ignore it. But that’s precisely what they cannot do. Administrators are like corksuckers everywhere: they chronically miss the point. [CORK*SUCK*ER: one who, when invited to a wine tasting party, invariably falls upon his knees in the corner, vigorously sucking upon the cork.]
John C. Bonnell, Professor of English at Macomb Community College, at 10:46 am EDT on September 13, 2006
Are there any plans at BU to make BU students act more mature and less like bimbos on the Green line. Seriously, they make everyone think that BU is just one big party.
Larry, at 10:46 am EDT on September 13, 2006
Poor, forlorn, lost, pious, ever sanctimonious Sandra, resorting to empty-headed, mindless blather about “family values” that will cause endless roars of laughter when she stutters, fumbles, and quivers attempting to ever define exactly what she has in mind.
Memo to Sandra — stay away from any and all collegiate sports events, work on your family values at home where they belong, and leave your moral crusades in the church of your choice........
Chuck, at 11:25 am EDT on September 13, 2006
Chuck, Maybe Sandra is joking. As an academic, I am sure that Sandra understands the importance of defining terms. Unfortunately, we will have to await another post to see if, in fact, she is joking or whether she is using terms without definitions, which is unacceptable in academe, and, quite frankly, in any civilized country.
I am curious as to how Sandra concludes that you have a lack of character. It isn’t as if she knows much about your personal life, or even about your propensity to do anything besides make posts on the internet: none of which really say anything about your character.
Of course, Sandra would need to explain what she means by “family values.” People (including myself) have justified all sorts of things with that phrase. But, perhaps she can explain which “family” value requires a set of rules restricting expression, because this is what she is arguing for. (Sandra does not make the argument that people with such values do not swear, she only makes the argument that restricting speech is necessary to implement an unnamed family value.)
In my family, letting kids watch any TV was considered to show a lack of any kind of value. For that reason I consider it gauche for anyone to make any television reference. But others think it is acceptable to discuss television shows with others.
Strangely, Sandra’s point about “civilized behavior” doesn’t make that much sense. Despite the fact that sports are largely a waste of time and talking about them shows a lack of breeding, they are, in themselves, a facet of civilization. The games start and end according to rules. The players play according to a set of rules (even in hockey). Equipment is limited. Indeed, the foul-mouthed fans are generally not allowed on the field of play, and they generally refrain from even trying to play. Human flesh is rarely eaten in the stands. This seems quite civilized to me. I wonder if Sandra thinks that Rock-and-Roll Rollerderby is uncivilized ?
Larry, at 12:20 pm EDT on September 13, 2006
What planet are you folks from?
Most people find those words offensive, and your answer to that is that they should lower their values?
Why shouldn’t the students learn how to behave appropriately in public?
hill, at 1:00 pm EDT on September 13, 2006
What a bunch of prissy wankers in these comments. I admire the school spirit of my fellow Terriers, and am inspired by the creative rhyming of the York chant. Fuck BC, indeed.
Larry, you’re right, we do have a bit of an image problem, but I don’t think it’s as bad as the partying reputations of some universities of comparable size with bigger frat/sorority populations (BU’s is quite small) and football programs (which we don’t have).
stinky, graduate student at Boston University, at 1:15 pm EDT on September 13, 2006
Following logic through to its conclusion: if you don’t care about how your words and actions affect others, others don’t have to care either.
That means that I can tell you to grow up and stop acting like that screaming obnoxious kid in aisle 3 who also has no idea how to behave appropriately in public. And following your logic, I can safely state that it’s your fault if that bothers you.
hill, at 2:35 pm EDT on September 13, 2006
This exchange neatly illustrates the civic inadequacy of American higher education. It is obvious that the language BU students use is inappropriate in public; calling on someone to define terms before they object to it is an egregious misuse of an academic strategy.
Douglas Lewis, at 2:45 pm EDT on September 13, 2006
The people who run BU are fucking idiots. Just let the students be.
Aaron, at 3:10 pm EDT on September 13, 2006
....Just say “no.”
Or just say, “Fuck no!” depending on where you are from.
kgotthardt, at 8:35 pm EDT on September 13, 2006
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Linguistic complexities
At least BU doesn’t have the problems which faced the authorities at Norfolk Collegiate years ago when students started chanting(with the proper local pronunciation): “We don’t smoke and we don’t chew and we don’t go with girls that do; Norfolk! Norfolk! Norfolk!
Jim Baron, Emeritus, at 8:35 am EDT on September 13, 2006